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Kent Hovind: Why Do Atheist Manifest Demons When They Hear His Name?

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Some Atheists are claiming that they are the new gays, they are going demand rights until they get them.  I think they are the new Islam, they display the same form of zealotry and murderous spirit as we saw when a Palatestian christian started beating the Goliath called Ahmed Deedat.  Some Muslims tried to kill Anis Shorosh after they saw what he did to Deedat.

Now everytime the name Kent Hovind is mentioned, evolutionists start contorting their faces.  Sure he could have been easy on them but he chose to make a spectacle of them.

He had problems with the IRS but everyone who knows they US constitution knows the income tax is unconstitutional .  The IRS, contrary to what the public believes in an arm of the private Federal Reserve Bank rather than the United Staes government.

I am not here to speculate about the tax case because I do not have all the facts but I am here ask Atheist why they hate Kent Hovind so much?

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Written by dawkinswatch

January 23, 2008 at 1:24 pm

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  1. So much to correct, so little time.

    1) You equate atheism with evolutionism. In the title and first paragraph, you’re talking about atheists, but in the next you’ve arbitrarily switched to evolutionists. Just who are you attacking?

    2) If you’re talking about atheists, then you’ve stereotyped a group of people united by an absence of belief. That’s like stereotyping a group of people united by their absence of a Vista OS. I mean, what on Earth can you say about such a group besides their absence?
    So to say that ALL atheists HATE Mr. Hovind is a tad nonsensicle.

    3) In the second paragraph, you say that Hovind made a spectacle out of evolutionists. Just when did this happen, exactly? Was it when he equated Nazism to Communism to Darwinism? Was it when he said apricot kernels cure cancer*? How about when he knowingly espouses fallacious claims about ‘Lucy’***?

    Yeah, he sure showed us.

    *I slapped my head when I heard that one.

    **Contrary to medical science, which has shown that it leads to slow cyanide poisoning.

    ***http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/knee-joint.html

    Dave

    January 23, 2008 at 2:28 pm

  2. Kent Howard… he’s is dino dude, right? Anyway I like your “taxes are unconstitutional” part. It is called the 16th amendment (allows income tax). The Federal Reserve is an arm of the government, they are responsible for the money supply. Anyway what happened to “render unto Ceaser that which is Ceaser’s”?
    On the other side of the coin you accuse atheists and evolutionists (no the same thing, some theists are masters of double think) of being like Muslims. Last I checked atheists and scientists haven’t killed those who didn’t respect their beliefs. Or flown planes into buildings. Or punish women for being raped. Your comment reminds me of the accusation that “Atheists are a branch of Islam”. (It is under 100 dumbest things theists have said)

    Samuel Skinner

    January 23, 2008 at 4:20 pm

  3. Samuel Skinner, the last time I looked the US government was not a shareholder in theFederal Reserve. There is nothing Federal about the Reserve Bank, it is owned by Goldanam Sachs, Chase Manhattan etc.

    It is unconstitutional to have fiat (paper money).

    Is Stalin an Atheist? Did he show mercy to those who disagreed with him?

    dawkinswatch

    January 23, 2008 at 4:51 pm

  4. Most Atheist claim Evolution as their reason for being betting wih their lives that God does not exist.

    dawkinswatch

    January 23, 2008 at 4:53 pm

  5. I don’t hate Hovind, but I generally don’t like people who lie or misrepresent their opponents in order to win rhetorical points with no regard for the truth.

    “It is unconstitutional to have fiat (paper money).”
    Do you even know what “unconstitutional” means? Perhaps you are referring to the constitution of some other country?

    Joe

    January 23, 2008 at 9:29 pm

  6. Most atheists do not demand like the majority of gays do. All we ASK is for theists to respect our lack of belief in a god.

    Jersey

    January 23, 2008 at 9:44 pm

  7. Hi Dawkinswatch

    You simply make the assertion that atheists hate Hovind then offer a video clip of Hovind arguing for a young earth.

    In your writing you offer no evidence to show that your claim is correct. I watched part 10 of the video clip and Hovid offers no evidence there to suggest that atheists hate him.

    So what are you on about?

    With reference to the video clip – part 10, Hovinds claims are silly. A couple examples show how bad he is:-

    Towards the end he says (paraphrasing):-

    1) “Some people are claiming that new stars are forming in Crab Nebula. Well no stars are forming.”

    2) “Scientists claim it takes billions of years for red stars to turn to white stars … that is simply not correct … we have overwhelming evidence that read stars can turn to white stars … All the ancient astronomers said that Sirius was a red star … today it is a white dwarf”.

    3) Jupiter is losing heat and if the universe was billions of years old then this just cannot be.

    Well on point 1) the Crab Nebula is the remnant of an exploded star. Therefore no one would make the claim that stars are forming there.

    On point 2), Hovind has his facts confused and distorted. The naked eye Sirius is not a white dwarf. For the claim that it was a red star plus a refutation of Hovind, see the following link:-

    http://wiki.cotch.net/index.php/Sirius_was_a_red_star_2000_years_ago_and_is_a_white_dwarf_now

    (Only one ancient astronomer made the claim, as far as we know.)

    Regarding point 3), Hovind does not say why a planet losing heat cannot be billions of years old. There are a couple of ways in which a planet can lose heat over billions of years – slow gravitational collapse or radioactive decay of unstable elements which make up its composition. Another possibility is a slow ticking over of some fusion reactions with deuterium and/or tritium (heavy hydrogen) in its core.

    So, given the above, why on earth should Hovind be trusted in the remainder of his clip?

    You do not provide evidence for your claim. As for the clip, based on the evidence I provide, it can be deemed to be silly.

    In what sense is Hovind doing God’s work (which I presume he is claiming to be doing), when he gets his facts wrong or confused, and is unable to mount a good scientific argument for his assertions?

    Regards, Roland

    roland

    January 24, 2008 at 1:47 am

  8. “Is Stalin an Atheist? Did he show mercy to those who disagreed with him?”

    Does it matter? His atheism is not what caused him to commit his atrocities. His warped idea of communism and tyanny did it.

    “Most Atheist claim Evolution as their reason for being betting wih their lives that God does not exist.”

    I challenge you to cite one verifiable instance of an atheist making such a claim.

    Dave

    January 24, 2008 at 3:03 am

  9. I am way beyond simple Ateism! I am down right hostile towards religion.

    This is why i love Hovind.

    Luckily most people see him for what he is, totally insane. On top of that he actively gives advice that poisons religious people.

    I mean he is great! He does more in a day to turn people away from religion than i do in an entire year. Who in their right mind wants to be associated with a screwball this psycho.

    On top of that he is killing religious people by getting them to eat poison!

    I love this guy!

    escapedmentalpatient

    January 24, 2008 at 8:50 am

  10. Roland, I gave the video to show people who might not know him a glimpse of him. Be patient I will deal with dating techniques soon.

    Remind me if by the end of next week we do not deal with the reason why dating techniques are unreasonable.

    dawkinswatch

    January 24, 2008 at 12:33 pm

  11. “Is Stalin an Atheist? Did he show mercy to those who disagreed with him?”

    Does it matter? His atheism is not what caused him to commit his atrocities. His warped idea of communism and tyanny did it.

    (a)I thank you for your answer, But that what I am asking about communism, why was there a population control in every communist revolution? Chairman Mao killed a few peole, Lenin had started killing peasants and Pol Pot had killing fields? Was something taking place which we are not told of? Watch the “Bloody History of Communism ” video which I attached in the last weeks.

    “Most Atheist claim Evolution as their reason for being betting wih their lives that God does not exist.”

    I challenge you to cite one verifiable instance of an atheist making such a claim.

    (A)If you rule out God and he really exists, then you have bet your eternity and lost the bet.

    dawkinswatch

    January 24, 2008 at 12:45 pm

  12. [quote]
    “Most Atheist claim Evolution as their reason for being betting wih their lives that God does not exist.”

    I challenge you to cite one verifiable instance of an atheist making such a claim.

    (A)If you rule out God and he really exists, then you have bet your eternity and lost the bet.
    [/quote]
    That doesn’t fulfill my request, but nevermind.

    This is just Pascal’s Wager. It fails by assuming that the only two possible afterlife scenariots are those given by one denomination of Christianity, and Strong Atheism. Since this is blatently false, the Wager fails.

    For instance, the atheist may be wrong that there is no afterlife, but that doesn’t necessarily mean they’ll go to the Christian Hell.

    Furthermore, what about WEAK atheism? This is by far more abundant than it’s Strong cousin, and doesn’t rule out the possibility of deities.

    Dave

    January 24, 2008 at 8:17 pm


  13. (a)I thank you for your answer, But that what I am asking about communism, why was there a population control in every communist revolution? Chairman Mao killed a few peole, Lenin had started killing peasants and Pol Pot had killing fields? Was something taking place which we are not told of? Watch the “Bloody History of Communism ” video which I attached in the last weeks.

    The common factor is that they were enforcing the formation of a communist society over a very short period of time. It is also worth noting that few, if any, actually acheived a truely communist society.
    There is also the issue of tyrrany: history has taught us that these are invariably bloodthirsty regiemes, and the ‘communist’ leadership of Stalin, Lenin, Mao, etc, were no different.

    Dave

    January 24, 2008 at 8:20 pm

  14. communism is a concept or a theory, but reality is often diffeent from theories.

    Marx did call for a dictatorship because someone has to nforce communism.

    dawkinswatch

    January 26, 2008 at 5:52 pm

  15. Gidday Speakout (dawkinswatch),

    At post #10 you requested that I remind you, by week’s end, to deal with the reason as to why dating techniques are unreasonable.

    This is the reminder.

    I hope you will also deal with my three demonstrations, at post #7, that Hovind’s arguments are themselves unreasonable.

    Regards, Roland

    roland

    January 27, 2008 at 11:31 pm

  16. From DawkinsWatch – some two weeks ago:-

    “Remind me if by the end of next week we do not deal with the reason why dating techniques are unreasonable.”

    Well, I have reminded you on several occasions DawkinsWatch/Speakout.

    Roughly two weeks have passed now and there has been no acknowledgement from you.

    Did you just want me to remind you but you had no intention of responding?

    That is ok if it was always your intention to do this. It would have been good if you had told me so, though. I assumed you were going to respond – given the context of our discussion.

    Regards, Roland

    roland

    February 4, 2008 at 7:28 am

  17. I do agree with escapedmentalpatient. Hovind is quite an asset to all people who promote the use of reason.

    In other words, people who take Hovind seriously must be really stupid, ignorant and totally incapable of logical thought.

    Give us many Hovinds! The more nonsense they utter the more people will be able to turn to reason.

    Wolf Potter

    February 24, 2008 at 5:31 pm

  18. I wasnt able to read all of it there is and was no way in hell even i tryed .if u only new wat u sound like ??? m shure jesus would agree u r a real fuk wit … n god bless u any way xxxz ***stolen***

    teleperty

    February 16, 2013 at 9:53 am


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