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Why Did Matter Invent Music And Emotions?

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I was trying to edit this post and I lost all of it.

When I listen to the above post, I feel emotions and I wonder how matter without any emotions can invent music?

I asked followers of Charles Darwin And Richard Dawkins whether they had souls the other day and they said no.  Yes they are a percular people, in case you have not noticed.

Now for survival reasons I think man would have been better off without emotions like sadness and grief because they only serve to slow him/her down.

I believe  that man was made in God’s image and likeness and God is love and that is why we are emotional, we reflect his character.

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Written by dawkinswatch

March 5, 2008 at 5:14 pm

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  1. Lobotomy:

    “Now for survival reasons I think man would have been better off without emotions like sadness and grief because they only serve to slow him/her down.”

    That’s not true. Animals that feel sadness or grief when they are wounded or their children or loved ones die are more likely to avoid such events in the future.

    Lobotomy 2.0:

    “I believe that man was made in God’s image and likeness and God is love and that is why we are emotional, we reflect his character.”

    So, God sometimes wants to keep other people as property? He experiences lust and sometimes feels the desire to rape? He feels blood rage against members of other religious, racial, and national groups? And he’s still “infinitely wise” and “all good”? Right.

    Lobotomy 3.0:

    “When I listen to the above post, I feel emotions and I wonder how matter without any emotions can invent music?”

    Our sense of hearing evolved over time, as did our emotions. Emotions have evolutionary value. So does good hearing. So how is it unlikely that human beings would invent orchestrated sounds that cause emotions?

    Lobotomy 9.0:

    “I asked followers of Charles Darwin And Richard Dawkins whether they had emtions the other day and they said no. Yes they are a percular people, in case you have not noticed.”

    Like so many other Christians, you protray scientifically informed people as “followers” of scientists as though they were religious leaders and we were their followers. Darwin made the most significant contribution to science ever. Accepting common descent is no more an act of obedience than accepting gravity is.

    In any case, I really don’t believe you. Anybody who claims to not have emotions is lying, kidding, or doesn’t know what “emotions” means.

    Oh, one more thing: the other day, I told you to spell properly. It’s disrespectful to do otherwise. Please try to be respectful.

    J. Frantz

    March 5, 2008 at 9:36 pm

  2. Really, you do not even try to find research on these areas do you? Or think about alternatives other than ‘god did it’.

    Ever wonder why we have emotions? Fine. They serve us well, they are the result of chemicals released under certain stimuli and circumstances which have the result of telling us if something is good or bad for our body.

    Death of a loved one is a bad thing so we get that mixture of chemicals released, we feel sad and so we try to avoid loved ones dying in the future.

    Hey, our body really likes this chocolate stuff. It loves all the energy providing sugar and is somewhat fooled to think that it can be nutritious. So it releases different chemicals in the brain to make us feel good so we want more chocolate later.

    Same with art and music. Music inspires and motivates in much the same way. Ever wonder why small children don’t usually like classical music? Simply because their brains have not developed in a way that can accept it yet. As their brains develop more as they grow, they grow to accept the subtleties and nuances of it – and when their brain can accept and like it, it releases those wonderful little endorphins.

    Most animals, especially macro-vertebrates, have emotions to some degree or another. Dogs pine and are sad when their master leaves for a few days, cats get angry at being petted the wrong ways … the emotional displays in groups of monkeys and apes are astounding in their complexity.

    They are needed because they assist in driving such animals on, they help to protect them, they help us even to breed and propagate the species.

    You really need to do some research before making entries in your blog. I notice that in nearly every entry that you are proven wrong in your assertions yet you keep on going down the same path.

    Matt

    March 5, 2008 at 9:45 pm

  3. You proved me wrong ? When, it is called selective perception.

    You have given a long answer but you have not said why we ahave emotions.

    Chemicals needed to be released will not do.

    dawkinswatch

    March 5, 2008 at 10:35 pm

  4. You never even made an argument to begin with.

    J. Frantz

    March 5, 2008 at 10:49 pm

  5. Chemicals needed to be released will not do.

    You obviously didn’t read what I wrote then or failed miserably in understanding it.

    Emotions are the result of certain chemicals being released in the brain and other select parts of the body. Such chemicals go a great way in controlling our behaviour.

    Those chemicals are released to guide the body to do certain things and avoid other things, for the better survival chances of that body.

    It is not complicated.

    Matt

    March 5, 2008 at 11:08 pm

  6. “I asked followers of Charles Darwin And Richard Dawkins whether they had emtions the other day and they said no.”

    They were testing to see if your emotional repertoire includes a sense of humor.

    Nimravid

    March 6, 2008 at 11:34 am

  7. Nimravid, thank you for your comments and I wold point out that an error occurred when I had to rewrite the post.

    Matt I have asked you to tell me when these chemicals evolved?

    dawkinswatch

    March 6, 2008 at 12:59 pm

  8. I am asking you to take me through the process of how matter i.e. a rock evolved into complex emotions.

    If you are like matt you have to explain chemical evikution and give me proof of its existence.

    Is it that difficult to understand?

    dawkinswatch

    March 6, 2008 at 1:17 pm

  9. Rocks don’t have emotions. Bacteria don’t have emotions. You need a central nervous system for that. It is real simple once you are there though. Creature sees thing that can kill it and if creature feels bad it will try to avoid it. Stimulous responce.

    You seem hung up on abiogenisis. Going from non living to living. Well… we haven’t duplicated it so all we have are hypothesis (some with are going for theory status). The good news is that we know how the basic building blocks got around (they form rather easily), going from them to strands is easy. The hard part is how the heck we got the “DNA gives orders to make protein” set up. I think there is an answer to that- it is just harder for me to get. Once you get to that point though you are on the road to bacteria.

    Samuel Skinner

    March 6, 2008 at 7:18 pm

  10. Again, the blogger is being obtuse.

    By asking for a step by step process from inanimate matter to a Bach concerto, he is simply being stupid. The answer is, I don’t know. See another post of mine of this blog for the sublime nature of that answer.

    You believe man is made in some god’s image? Fine. Perhaps you will see how foolish you request is when I put an equivlant one to you. Explain in detail, including accounting for the existence of god and his nature, how god went about creating the universe. Show your work.

    Mike

    April 11, 2008 at 1:26 pm


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