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Agnostic Definition:Atheist Bus Adverts

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Richard Dawkins has contributed his own money to enable Atheist to run adverts on London Buses.

They have every right to make these adverts but do you see the irony?  They could have been much stronger in their assertion that God does not exist.  This is not really an Atheist advert but it is just wishy washy agnostic advert.

What do they mean he probably does not exist?  Can you please put chances on that assertion?

But the wickedness of the advert is that it says because God does not exist, we can all have fun.  Now let us think about that a little longer, If everyone tried to have fun and please themselves, you can guarantee that someone will be miserable.  Killing, stealing, acquiring STDS is a messed up way for having fun.

It is based on a misunderstanding,God does not have rules to stop us having fun but to make sure that we do not hurt each other, which is reasonable.  Many of the laws countries like Britain have are based on Christian ideal: to do unto others as you will like them to do to you.

This advert could easily be an anarchist advert just because it is based on the purile notion that fun can only be had, if there are no rules.

Let us say we even take their advise to have fun, in the long term we are all dead.  It is absurd to say that we need to have fun if at the end of the day we will just die.  What is the fun of having all thas fun then dying?  It is cheaper to have had a miserable existence than to give it all up after all the fun.

I have asserted that Richard Dawkins was a follower of secular humanist religion.

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Written by dawkinswatch

November 4, 2008 at 3:36 pm

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  1. The website actually explains why they phrases it like that. The slogan has to pass the advertising standards board, which it won’t if there are too many complaints. Saying outright that ‘God doesn’t exist’ would be likely to incite far more complaints than the current wording, and thus is more likely to let the advertisement survive.

    Besides that, the people who put it together have pointed out that claiming that ‘God doesn’t exist’ is philosophically irresponsible.

    forknowledge

    November 4, 2008 at 7:39 pm

  2. There you are my brother, the claims of the Atheists do not meet advertising requirements.

    dawkinswatch

    November 5, 2008 at 3:41 pm

  3. *sigh*

    Richard Dawkins supports secular humanism? NO! I had no idea! You’ve uncovered a vast conspiracy to show that Dawkins is covering up his support of secular humanism! OMFSM! RICHARD DAWKINS EXPOSED!!!

    What do they mean he probably does not exilst? Can you please put probablities on that assertion?

    What I mean is there is no evidence supporting the existence of a god who is constantly meddling in human affairs. I assert that there probably is no god with the same conviction that I assert that there probably is no tooth faery.

    Surely you can agree with the following. Anything is possible, of course, and we tend not to believe that there probably is no tooth faery…

    But if you were to show me in a controlled experiment where there are no parents in a child’s house and the child’s tooth still goes missing with a dollar left under the pillow, along with maybe some photographic evidence or something, I’d be willing to change my disbelief in the tooth faery. Now, that’s probably not going to happen. It’s possible, but there probably is no tooth faery.

    Now, just because I can’t put a number on how improbable I think the tooth faery is doesn’t mean that it’s not improbable. Why don’t you put a number on how improbable the tooth faery is?

    But the wickedness of the advert is that it says because God does not exist we can all have fun. Now let us think about that a little longer, If everyone tried to have fun and please themselves, you can guarantee that someone will be miserable. Killing, stealing, acquiring STDS is a messed up way for having fun.

    You really don’t get what humanism means, do you?

    This bus advert is put on by the British Humanist Association. Humanism does not advocate doing things that harm other people. Humanism is about how we’re going to find an ethical to live our lives with without God.

    Wait, trying to be ethical without God? That’s crazy! Obviously we’re going to go raping, pillaging, and all sorts of unpleasant shit, right?

    Uh, no. It’s easy, really. Do unto others as reason and compassion would have you do unto them. Us godless lot are just as capable of sympathy and fuzzy caring emotions as you, and we’re just as capable of making reasoned judgements about what will cause harm and what will do good.

    At least we don’t advocate going out and stoning homosexuals, killing people who disrespect their parents, stoning people who work on the sabbath, or stoning blasphemers (a (probably :P) victimless crime, sorry).

    splendidelles

    November 22, 2008 at 4:46 pm

  4. Splendidelles

    I have a very good idea of what Secular Huminasm is, It is Communism, now we can look at all the shining examples of humans kindness to fellow man, like China, the USSR,Cambodia, Cuba.

    Man can really do it without God.

    dawkinswatch

    November 25, 2008 at 12:03 pm

  5. Right… cause you know so many Secular Humanists so well and the lot of them are all FLAMING COMMIES!!!11111ONE!11!

    I, for one, know many Secular Humanists. I’ve met them at conferences, on the Internet, at my school. I know non-believers who are communists, true, but I also know many more who are just socialists, or liberals, or democrats, or republicans, or conservatives, libertarians, extreme Laissez Faire capitalists, everything you can imagine on the political spectrum. All we agree upon is that we want to make the world a better place and that we don’t need the help of a deity.

    How many times have I explained to you that the last time the “Godless=COMMIE” fallacy was in the 1950s? When are you, and the rest of America, going to wake up and realise that we’ve been in the 21st century for the past 8 years (going on 9) and that lack of belief in a divine deity has little to do with our fiscal inclinations?

    Here’s a bloody fantastic idea: Instead of going about making egregious mis-characterisations of non-believers without substantiating your claims with (gasp!) evidence, you might want to get to know a few of them. We’re nice people, really.

    But on the other hand… yeah… nevermind that. Keep up with the great anti-intellectual American tradition of making blatantly false claims without bothering to substantiate it with evidence. It works well with the droves of mindless humans that populate this little rock hurtling through space. They embrace willful ignorance with arms wide enough to encompass the Virgo Supercluster, after all. All we humans want to do is lap up drivel and spit it back out. Your technique works on the masses.

    However, I know we spend most of our days locked away in our ivory towers and all, but some of use actually have this radical notion that you best support your claims with this silly thing called “provable fact“.

    I know, it’s absurd! Why wold you want to ask for provable fact? But, if you want to convince a thinker you should try it sometime.

    splendidelles

    November 25, 2008 at 7:09 pm

  6. *the last time the “Godless=COMMIE” fallacy was popular…

    Oi, typos will be the end of me. Absolutely fanatbelaktig…

    splendidelles

    November 25, 2008 at 7:11 pm


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