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Why I Am Not Atheist: Too Much To Disprove

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I think Atheist do not understand what they are criticising, they are deceived into thinking they do but that is pure deception

1) I have offered to stop being a Christian if any of the Atheist were to give me a failed prophecy from the old or the new testament?

There are literally thousands of prophecies in both books and most of them are forward looking, but everyone of them has been proven true sooner of later.

For my misunderstanding Atheist friends, people like Jeremiah, Daniel, Moses etc. we called prophets for a reason, they were predicting the future.

2)  Many modern so called sciences like Economics were they have tried to predict the future and look at their records despite their computer capabilities.  We can put bible prophecy against every econometrics model and it still wins out,

3) Books like Daniel send shivers up the spines of secular scholars that is why they try to attack that particular book.

My offer stands, show me the money!

Some people have claimed that the claims of Christianity cannot be proved, I disagree I think you can test the validity of the claims.  There is no such thing as blind faith in Christianity.

Take a book like psalm 22 – it predicts the death of the Messiah a thousand years before the event

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Written by dawkinswatch

February 9, 2009 at 1:21 pm

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  1. I don’t think anybody in the world is confused as to what a “prophet” is.

    However, what you essentially bragging about is that the bible is internally consistent. So is any book with a decent editor. The most recent sections of the bible are over 1500 years old, and we don’t have the original manuscript of any portion of it. Not to mention that the bible has been translated dozens of times by dozens of different people.

    This logic doesn’t impress atheists because considering all of the above, either the prophetic portions could have been changed to match what later happened, or what later happened was changed to match the original prophecies.

    Either way, not very convincing.

    Personal Failure

    February 9, 2009 at 2:08 pm

  2. For a prediction to be valid, it must be specific, and must be known before the event in question occurs. I can make any number of predictions: The economy will improve. The economy will sink further. A great discovery will be made on Mars. Someone in a high ofice in the US will suffer humiliation. If you like I can write these out in pretty but cryptic verse. Either way, I can guarantee that ALL OF THEM WILL COME TRUE. Probably within the next year.
    None of these makes a specific prediction – what the discovery on Mars will be, who will be disgraced, or when and by how much the economy will rise or fall. When they do come true, I will not jump forth claiming to be a prophet, and yet I will have met the criteria based on your argument.
    Let me throw it back at you and ask for specific predictions – what and when – made in the bible that have come true after it was widely circulated. Not general doomsaying open to interpretation, but specific predictions. Not predictions in the bible that “came true” in the bible. Specific predictions that have come true exactly where, when and how predicted.
    Or better yet, a specific prediction that has NOT yet occured, and tell us when it will, based solely on the texts.
    Go on. Just one.

    Bipedal Tetrapod

    February 9, 2009 at 5:23 pm

  3. Prophecy of Israel
    1. 1948 was the first time since 70 A.D. that the people of Israel have been brought back to control their homeland. So ~ 2,000 years ago these prophecies were made.

    Ezekiel – 37:21 (Written 597 years before the birth of Christ) – For the Lord God says, “I am gathering the people of Israel from among the nations and bringing them home from around the world to their own homeland, to unify them into one nation.”

    Ezekiel 38:12 – “I will go to those once desolate cities that are now filled with people again, those who have returned from all the nations, and the whole earth revolves around them. This will happen in the distant future, in the latter years of history.”

    The new state of Israel now contains people who have come from 100 different countries, speaking 60 different languages and the trek homeward continues to this day.

    Zechariah 12:2,3,7, & 9 (Written 520 years before the birth of Christ) – I will make Jerusalem and Judah like a cup of poison to all the nearby nations that send their armies to surround her. Jerusalem will be a heavy stone burdening the world and though all the nations of the world unite in an attempt to move her, they will all be crushed. For my plan is to destroy all nations that come against Jerusalem.”

    Zechariah 2: 4 & 7 – Jerusalem will some day be so full of people she won’t have room enough for all. I scattered you to the winds, but I will bring you back again.”

    This is the whole problem with Palestine and Israel right now. There is not enough room for all of the Jews coming home and they are building settlements in Palestinian territory.

    makarios

    February 9, 2009 at 9:50 pm

  4. 1. Ezekiel 37:24 “And David my servant shall be king over them.” In context, it was not referring to our time.
    As for Ezekiel 38, reread the whole thing. It is talking of impending war with Magog, which has no historical record, so may be fictitious – in which case it is no prophecy.

    2. As for Zechariah, the “prophecy” that Jerusalem would not fall is somewhat negated by the fact that Jerusalem fell to Babylonians, Macedonians, Selucids, Maccabeans, Romans, Persians, Crusaders, and Ottoman Turks. So much for divine indestructibility.

    Bipedal Tetrapod

    February 10, 2009 at 5:28 pm


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